Comments on: Testing time for the FEI http://www.ethicalhorsemanship.com/2010/01/28/fei-drugs/ Exploring topics on horse training & welfare Tue, 17 Aug 2010 23:16:55 +1200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Allan Buck http://www.ethicalhorsemanship.com/2010/01/28/fei-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-189 Allan Buck Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:16:24 +0000 http://www.ethicalhorsemanship.com/?p=928#comment-189 The reason so many race horses breakdown is because of the over use of Bute! Bute is the creme de la creme of drugs to mask pain in horses. It should be banned from all competitive horses, The reason so many race horses breakdown is because of the over use of Bute!
Bute is the creme de la creme of drugs to mask pain in horses.
It should be banned from all competitive horses,

]]> By: Molly http://www.ethicalhorsemanship.com/2010/01/28/fei-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-137 Molly Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:45:04 +0000 http://www.ethicalhorsemanship.com/?p=928#comment-137 Yes well that is the debate with Grandin isn't it? I wrote a blog entry about how I could not do the job that she does, but I am glad that someone has taken that role. As a vegetarian I have chosen to display my disgust with the meat industry by boycott, At least Grandin is doing something for the welfare of the animals we eat. That is more than I can say for most people in this world. Yes well that is the debate with Grandin isn’t it? I wrote a blog entry about how I could not do the job that she does, but I am glad that someone has taken that role. As a vegetarian I have chosen to display my disgust with the meat industry by boycott, At least Grandin is doing something for the welfare of the animals we eat. That is more than I can say for most people in this world.

]]> By: The Horse's Advocate http://www.ethicalhorsemanship.com/2010/01/28/fei-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-136 The Horse's Advocate Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:09:16 +0000 http://www.ethicalhorsemanship.com/?p=928#comment-136 Thanks for your points, Molly. I know from experience how astoundingly effective bute can be in masking pain. Whilst I don't think horses should not have pain reduced, for their welfare, they can do a lot of damage if they are being worked, particularly at high level. Temple Grandin is interesting. I have mixed feelings over easing the passage to the slaughterhouse for the cattle... One part of me says 'Judas', and the other says that if they are 'having' to go there anyway, their path must be made as stress-free as possible. I have read some of the science on pain and suffering in stock at the abbattoir, I find the whole thing abhorrent. But that is another matter. Thanks very much for alterting me to Temple Grandin's book, I will look out for it. ; ) Thanks for your points, Molly. I know from experience how astoundingly effective bute can be in masking pain. Whilst I don’t think horses should not have pain reduced, for their welfare, they can do a lot of damage if they are being worked, particularly at high level.

Temple Grandin is interesting. I have mixed feelings over easing the passage to the slaughterhouse for the cattle… One part of me says ‘Judas’, and the other says that if they are ‘having’ to go there anyway, their path must be made as stress-free as possible.

I have read some of the science on pain and suffering in stock at the abbattoir, I find the whole thing abhorrent. But that is another matter. Thanks very much for alterting me to Temple Grandin’s book, I will look out for it. ; )

]]> By: Molly http://www.ethicalhorsemanship.com/2010/01/28/fei-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-132 Molly Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:28:19 +0000 http://www.ethicalhorsemanship.com/?p=928#comment-132 I am no vet nor am I even a competitive rider but I would never mix bute and work together. If the horse needs something like bute why would it be ok to ride or compete? There is the masking of pain issue but also the risk of further injury to a very valuable athlete. I just do not understand. OT but... Temple Grandin spoke recently on NPR and thought it may be of interest to you. I find her books and her interviews to be very interesting and she is definitely on topic with your blog... especially her latest book "Animals Make Us Human" Well here is the link http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123028845 I am no vet nor am I even a competitive rider but I would never mix bute and work together. If the horse needs something like bute why would it be ok to ride or compete? There is the masking of pain issue but also the risk of further injury to a very valuable athlete. I just do not understand.

OT but…
Temple Grandin spoke recently on NPR and thought it may be of interest to you. I find her books and her interviews to be very interesting and she is definitely on topic with your blog… especially her latest book “Animals Make Us Human”
Well here is the link http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123028845

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